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- From: Claus Brod <clausb@hpbeo79.bbn.hp.com>
- Subject: Re: MiNT TO UNIX
- Date: Tue, 18 Jan 94 13:18:19 MEZ
- In-Reply-To: <199401180846.AA26140@ruulot.let.ruu.nl>; from "Annius Groenink" at Jan 18, 94 9:46 am
- Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85]
-
- > I think you understand perfectly well what my title means. It means that
- > if Atari users get more and more used to UNIX software they will in the
- > end (when they finally upgrade their STEs) buy something from a different
- > manufacturer. Atari's TOS is one of the parts that should make you like
- > the machine.
-
- Personally speaking, MultiTOS is what makes me like my TT, not
- TOS, but I understand and support in general what you say. But
- the whole point of MiNT was to add Unix-like features to TOS
- (pipes, links, preemptive multitasking, loadable filesystems...).
- This has the benefit of making it possible to port Unix
- applications. Many UNIX applications rely on a certain file
- structure, and MiNT supports such a uniform layout through its U:
- drive. So what's so wrong in trying to find some path structure
- conventions and MiNT library enhancements which could make
- porting easier?
-
- Apart from that, the "MiNT goes UNIX" discussion is one of the
- liveliest ever seen in this list, so quite a few people seem to
- be interested. We could also move to another list, but then the
- MiNT list would be dull as before, with no real progress.
-
- One thing about that "if MiNT goes UNIX, it will kill Atari"
- slogan: We are active users of Atari machines. We don't kill or
- hurt Atari just because we're active in the one or other
- direction. If Atari dies, it's their own silly fault. We
- developpers already did quite a lot for Atari, and we're not
- responsible for running their business.
-
- > Oh, I wasn't talking about obscure, new formats. I was just suggesting that
- > we might come up with something INTERESTING instead of the boring ancient
- > UNIX path structures (think of the SCRAP directory, i.e. something more
- > Mac-ish).
-
- I don't think the SCRAP directory is that exiting, but anyway, you're
- free to discuss it, although this is the MiNT list, not the MultiTOS
- list, so... 8-)
-
- > > But this isn't really the issue. I'm not the only one interested in a
- > > unix-like solution, and MiNT is so deceivingly close already now. I
- > > will not be satisfied with the old ways, I just can't help it :-).
- >
- > May I remind the right honourable gentleman that UNIX is much older than
- > TOS?
-
- Sorry, Annius, do we really need remarks of this style here? Of
- course we could now go on with OS flame wars, but are we really
- interested in that? Personally, I'm interested in features, and
- being able to port certain Unix software to MTOS more easily is
- such a feature. I don't want MTOS to become UNIX, and I think
- nobody else here wants this. The beauty of MTOS is that it is a
- very small operating system (although it could even be a lot
- smaller and faster, as proven by Mag!X), and I don't want to
- change that.
-
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